Joshua Goldman
Joshua Goldman
min read · July 15, 2025 · Entertainment

Clash Over Borders: Bill Maher vs. John Leguizamo on U.S. Immigration

Progressive actor John Leguizamo told Bill Maher that America should take in more migrants because 'there's plenty of room here'

EPIC BUST-UP: Leguizamo and Maher Go Head-to-Head on Immigration, Racism, and Trump

The usually tranquil Club Random podcast hosted by Bill Maher turned into a war zone this week as actor John Leguizamo joined the fray, sparking a fiery debate that left listeners gasping. The unlikely duo clashed over immigration policies, systemic racism, and even past personal encounters with Donald Trump himself.

It all started when Leguizamo, 64, passionately defended immigrants and launched into a scathing attack on what he sees as America's dark history of persecuting Latino communities. "We've been here since the beginning," he declared, citing the early days of Spanish colonization in the United States. "The first European language spoken in America was not English - it was Spanish." Leguizamo also brought up the Repatriation Act of the 1930s, which led to the deportation of two million American citizens, most of whom were Latino.

Maher disagreed - 'It can't just be like,

Maher, 69, countered that while he agrees with Leguizamo on the need for immigration reform, simply opening the borders won't solve the problem. "It's not about room; it's about resources," he argued. "Countries have to have a border." The liberal comedian also criticized the Biden administration for mishandling the border crisis.

As the debate heated up, Leguizamo delved into a personal anecdote about meeting Trump at an awards ceremony in the 1980s. According to Leguizamo, Trump told him he was "so articulate" - code, he believed, for saying that Latino people are only intelligent if they can speak properly. Maher acknowledged the slight as "obnoxious," but refused to label Trump a racist.

The conversation took an even more provocative turn when Leguizamo referenced Stephen Miller, Trump's infamous immigration advisor. "He's not on the level of racism that Stephen Miller is," Leguizamo said. "Nobody is at the level of Stephen Miller's racism." Maher demurred, saying that while Miller may be a racist, he's not as bad as some other politicians.

People hold Mexican flags and gesture next to a car in flames following multiple detentions by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Los Angeles County

As the debate raged on, Leguizamo and Maher touched on issues like the importance of immigrants in building America, the need for legal immigration reform, and the challenges faced by border towns and liberal cities overwhelmed by migrant inflows. At one point, Maher joked about "s*hole countries" where you can take a chicken on a bus - not meant to be taken literally, he clarified.

Throughout the conversation, Leguizamo remained steadfast in his defense of immigrants and his criticism of America's history of persecuting Latino communities. "Immigrants are the life source of this country," he insisted. When Maher called for moderation, Leguizamo shot back, "Let's fix the legal immigration; it's a broken system."

In a rare moment of agreement, Maher conceded that the legal system is indeed failing many long-time immigrants. "Fix the quotas; fix the blockage," he said.

Leguizamo suggested Trump was a racist but Maher disagreed describing him as a 'a product of his time'

The final verdict? This explosive debate left listeners with more questions than answers - and a deeper understanding of the complexities surrounding immigration, racism, and politics in America today.

Originally published on TheScholarlyNote.com

The exchange grew heated as the two addressed Trump's White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, widely regarded as the architect of the administration's hardline immigration policies

Leguizamo, who hosts MSNBC's Leguizamo Does America, argued that immigrants were not a burden but the backbone of the country. Pictured, demonstrators hold signs and flags in front of the National Guard last month in protest to federal immigration operations

Federal immigration officials are pictured carrying out raids on two southern California cannabis farms clashed with protesters in Camarillo, California last week

John Leguizamo, 64, has emerged as one of the most influential voices in the defense of immigrant rights in the US vocally denouncing anti-immigrant rhetoric and policies as dehumanizing to Latino communities